Tweet Minister
On 8-9th June 2009 an impromptu conversation started on Twitter between Lord Drayson and some science-related twitterers including: @skyponderer, @DrLucyRogers, @PD_Smith, @tim_harper, @AlexConnor, @joergheber, @2020science, @imascientist, @alicebell, and @dr_david_w. The conversation started with concerns about the fact that he had become joint Minister of Science & Defence Procurement and what that might mean for science. The conversation is also peppered with mentions of Lord Drayson's racing team who were at Le Mans. It turned into something akin to Question Time on Twitter. At the end of the conversation @TimesHigherEd (the newspaper supplement) got involved too!.
Note that times are all relative to a few minutes after the end of the conversation. The conversation starts at the top.
skyponderer: Anyone else worried that science and defence are now inextricably politically linked? with @lorddrayson doing both jobs!?
1 day ago
@PD_Smith: RT @skyponderer: Anyone else worried that science and defence are now inextricably politically linked? with @lorddrayson doing both jobs!?
1 day ago
lorddrayson: @martinstillman Sure will. We need more direct engagement with / from politicians and twitter really helps.
1 day ago
GarethDEdwards: @lorddrayson @parsifal2 how's that for open govt? :) ( Lord D, congrats on new job and good luck at Le Mans)
1 day ago
lorddrayson: @GarethDEdwards Thanks. I'm actually tweeting from the pit garage at Le Mans. Photos later....
1 day ago
Parsifal2: @lorddrayson For the record, you were/are the best Minister for Procurement in living memory ....
1 day ago
PD_Smith: .@lorddrayson You shd ask @skyponderer - but history shows we shd all be concerned abt links between sci & defence http://bit.ly/TejsO
about 24 hours ago
DrLucyRogers: Does history not also show good links between sci & defense, eg jet engine, radar etc? @PD_Smith: @lorddrayson @skyponderer @dr_david_w
about 24 hours ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson I agree with @PD_Smith, but I am also disappointed that science is undervalued enough not to need a full time minister...
about 24 hours ago
PD_Smith: RT @skyponderer: @lorddrayson I agree w/ @PD_Smith but am also disappointed that sci is undervalued enough not to need a full time minister
about 24 hours ago
ScienceTweets: RT @skyponderer: @lorddrayson I agree with @PD_Smith, but I am also disappointed that science is undervalued enough not to need a full t ...
about 23 hours ago
martinstillman: @lorddrayson tweeting SECURELY to obtain Citizens opinions & VOTES electronically; Mi-Voice provides this www.mi-voice.com
about 23 hours ago
PD_Smith: @DrLucyRogers Sci&Tech can be used for good or ill. But this decision must raise ethical concerns @lorddrayson @skyponderer @dr_david_w
about 23 hours ago
PD_Smith: ...Joseph Rotblat for one must be turning in his grave that sci & defence are now merged @DrLucyRogers @lorddrayson @skyponderer @dr_david_w
about 23 hours ago
DrLucyRogers: @lorddrayson Pls clarify your sci and MOD roles. Is it 2 separate jobs or 2 jobs merged into 1?
about 23 hours ago
PD_Smith: RT @DrLucyRogers : @lorddrayson Pls clarify your sci and MOD roles. Is it 2 separate jobs or 2 jobs merged into 1?
about 23 hours ago
RebeccaGW: Good to see @LordDrayson is still Science Minister, will innovation still sit with science in the new Dept.?
about 22 hours ago
tim_harper: RT @skyponderer: @lorddrayson ...but I am also disappointed that science is undervalued enough not to need a full time minister...
about 22 hours ago
DrLucyRogers: Lord Drayson's Sci and MOD roles are 2 separate jobs (via @lorddrayson)
about 21 hours ago
lorddrayson: @tim_harper Its not undervalued. " It's not about the time thing. It's about the what you get done thing"
about 21 hours ago
tim_harper: @lorddrayson In business I'd agree, but it would be good to see govt recognizing the strategic value of science despite recent distractions
about 19 hours ago
lorddrayson: RT @DraysonRacing: Bonjour from Le Mans! Drayson Racing is now set and ready to go for its 24 Hour debut! #lemans
about 18 hours ago
matodd: @lorddrayson Best of British! Enjoy the parade des pilotes and the Hawaiian tropic girls! Wish I was there.
about 18 hours ago
adamsapples: @lorddrayson best of British to you and the team. I am not there this year, but will be cheering you on from home
about 18 hours ago
lorddrayson: RT @DraysonRacing: In Le Mans for the 24 Hour? Be sure to visit us at scrutineering: Tuesday 9:40 am local time! #lemans
about 18 hours ago
kwokjk: @lorddrayson Good luck to you and the whole Drayson team at Le Mans from my family here in California. =]
about 18 hours ago
AlexConnor: @lorddrayson Good to hear, is potentially an exciting time for science - 0.6% of public spending which drives the economy!
about 17 hours ago
skyponderer: Finding it annoying that @lorddrayson replies to everyone who has retweeted my posts, but not directly to me. Not important enough?
about 6 hours ago
PD_Smith: .@newscientist @NatureNews Are you going to discuss the pros & cons of @lorddrayson being joint Minister of Science & Defence Procurement?
about 6 hours ago
DrLucyRogers: See FT's blog on @lorddrayson's 2 jobs & @bisgovuk + comments from @michaelkenward http://bit.ly/M2qKB H/T @alicebell (via PD_Smith)
about 5 hours ago
joergheber: @rowanNS @skyponderer @PD_Smith seems the gov has run out of qualified personnel! Don't believe @lorddrayson that science won't be affected
about 4 hours ago
jjsanderson: Phew! My session clashes with @lorddrayson. Expected turnout for mine hence nil, so maybe I'll get away with it. #WCSJ
about 3 hours ago
lorddrayson: @skyponderer I'm sorry. No offence meant - should have RT'd the source. What would you like done to address your concerns?
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: @joergheber Please explain specifically what it is you are worried about. I'm listening... @rowanNS @skyponderer @PD_Smith
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: @tim_harper We absolutely recognise the strategic value of science. The global challenges we face demand it.
about 2 hours ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson 1. why does Science not deserve its own minister? 2. Are there not ethical issues re unifying sci + military under 1 minister?
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: RT @andyblackmore: #24 #LeMans #radiolemans Spotter Guide available at www.spotterguides.com Version 2 follows Tues Tech. Online Wed am
about 2 hours ago
tim_harper: @lorddrayson Just finished a conference call with the World Economic Form saying exactly the same thing - fortunately they agree too!
about 2 hours ago
tim_harper: RT @lorddrayson: @tim_harper We absolutely recognise the strategic value of science. The global challenges we face demand it. -good to hear
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: #lemans We have now signed on, weighed in and passed technical inspection. All set for first practice tomorrow at 6pm. We're in!
about 2 hours ago
about 2 hours ago
silentypewriter: RT @PD_Smith: @lorddrayson 1. why does Science not deserve own minister? 2. Are there not issues re unifying sci+military under 1 minister?
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith In my view the more the sci minister is connected to wider roles in govt the more influence science has to the whole agenda
about 2 hours ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson Justify why we need a shared role Don't we have enough talent to go round that we need to spread it thinly @ science's expense?
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @lorddrayson: In my view the more the sci minister is connected to wider roles in govt the more influence science has to the whole agenda
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith Science deserves a minister at the cabinet table. Thats key. Tick. Sci desrves a cabinet committee. Thats key too. Tick.
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson The logic of that is that you'll soon be taking on more portfolios? Sounds to me like a reduction in the import of sci.
about 1 hour ago
2020science: RT @lorddrayson: @tim_harper We absolutely recognise the strategic value of science. The global challenges we face demand it.
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith But, many ministers have dual roles.. it really helps departments work together better. Silos in whitehall are not helpful.
about 1 hour ago
michaelkenward: @lorddrayson Did you see the AIM report on motorsport and "discontinuous innovation"? http://tinyurl.com/ludhb6
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson And what about combining sci + defence procurement? Does it send out the right message in an age of nuclear proliferation?
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith Many science issues are cross-departmental. Take GMES as an example. MOD / DECC / BERR / DIUS all had a view on earth observation
about 1 hour ago
2020science: @lorddrayson Dedication to strategic value of science & technology encouraging. But also need to translate intentions into action.
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @lorddrayson: Science deserves a minister at the cabinet table. Thats key. Tick. Sci desrves a cabinet committee. Thats key too. Tick.
about 1 hour ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson Say a big defence matter comes up? Carries more political weight than science, science will suffer. Defence wouldn't vice versa
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @lorddrayson: But, many ministers have dual roles.. it really helps departments work together better. Silos in whitehall are not helpful.
about 1 hour ago
silentypewriter: Twitter debate between Science minister @lorddrayson and #ukscitweetup bods. Going down now!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith Re ethical issues. You have a point. I have to be absolutely clear on the separation between the 2 roles. Civil service r key.
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith However, many science breakthroughs originated in defence research: ultrasound, radar to mention 2
about 1 hour ago
woodtom: thoroughly impressed by @DraysonRacing & @lorddrayson coverage of #lemans so far. Looking forward to updates during race. Good luck chaps!
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @lorddrayson worried abt role of science and thinking behind reorg. Why talk of ring fence? Are these threats to budget? Sounds defensive?
about 1 hour ago
imascientist: @lorddrayson @PD_Smith But is there a risk sci gets 'pulled' in a military direction? Potential crossovers w othr depts instead, e.g. health
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson I'm v glad to hear you accept there has to be separation. But I still say it sends out a mixed message to the rest of the world
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: RT @tim_harper: @lorddrayson conference call with the World Economic Form saying exactly the same thing - fortunately they agree too!
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: .@lorddrayson That's undeniable. But science should, and can be, about so much more than military hardware.
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @skyponderer Its not at science's expense- v. imp to be integrated into heart of govt- gives mores influence & impact 2 sci agenda
about 1 hour ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson Does science not have enough value on its own to be at heart of govt, why does it have to piggy-back in on defence's shoulders?
about 1 hour ago
alicebell: @lorddrayson. Er, isn't that the point? People aren't sure that science and defence are the departments they want working together
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith I agree. Defence is but a small part of the whole. "Science so what; So everything"....will continue from BIS... @sciencesowhat
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson Appreciate your attempt to justify your position(s) on Twitter though... Altho still not convinced it's a good idea.
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @lorddrayson military research brought lots of benefits, but am worried about blue sky basic research (in terms of funding, not intentions)
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @alicebell: @lorddrayson. Er, isn't that the point? People aren't sure that sci & defence are the departments they want working together
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @lorddrayson: I agree. Defence is but a small part of the whole. "Science so what; So everything"...will continue from BIS @sciencesowhat
about 1 hour ago
dr_david_w: @lorddrayson @PD_Smith @skyponderer Gordon Brown wanted a debate on the role of science in service of humanity. His actions speak volumes.
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @tim_harper @lorddrayson that's exactly my concern- science seems a fragile commodity in the scheme of gov. Shouldn't be on the defensive!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @joergheber "Only the paranoid survive" as Mr Grove once said..Best to be clear dont u think. The ring fence is safe and sound. Period.
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @imascientist the spinoffs in health are key - which is why I head the Office for Life Sciences too.
about 1 hour ago
imascientist: @lorddrayson But as @alicebell suggests, it seems to send an odd message - as if defence apps are the *main point* of science.
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: Intrigued to hear that @lorddrayson heads the Office for Life Sciences & Defence Procurement. That seems almost oxymoronic...
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @lorddrayson yet Andy Grove's quote works both ways as we can see :) Deeds speak louder than words so look forward to the former. Good luck!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: I really believe science agenda is stronger now in govt than ever. Its up to me to prove it though in the future. @tim_harper @joergheber
about 1 hour ago
imascientist: @lorddrayson I don't want to sound like we're all ganging up on you. Kudos for discussing it!
about 1 hour ago
alicebell: RT @PD_Smith Intrigued to hear that @lorddrayson heads the Office for Life Sciences & Defence Procurement. That seems almost oxymoronic...
about 1 hour ago
2020science: @lorddrayson Internal multiple roles for ministers seems pragmatic. But it does lead to mixed/confusing messages to those outside govt.
about 1 hour ago
drneilravenhill: Follow @lorddrayson for discussions on Science in Govt (UK). Congrats to Lord Drayson for being open (and being in Le Man)
about 1 hour ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson Hats off for the chance for dialogue. Very impressed we can all chat to the Minister for Science about such key issues
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @physicus 3G iPhone pleeeease.... :-) I may quote Andy Grove but Ive used Apples since 1982.... @2020science
about 1 hour ago
imascientist: @lorddrayson Maybe I'm an old hippy, but I try to engage kids in science, hoping they'll cure cancer or save planet. Weapons, not so much...
about 1 hour ago
2020science: @tim_harper Kudos to @lorddrayson engaging on Twitter - complex issues, but deftly handled (if not quite resolved...)
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @skyponderer: @lorddrayson Hats off for the chance for dialogue. V impressed we can all chat to the Minister for Sci ab such key issues
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @imascientist @alicebell Not the main point. Just one of many, many , applications of sci. MoD R&D budget is one of the largest tho...
about 1 hour ago
tim_harper: @lorddrayson That's good to hear and good luck! Our future prosperity will be built on science + entrepreneurs , just as it always has been!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @2020science yes I can understand that - which is why its so important for me to be open and accessible. Thank u twitter. ...
about 1 hour ago
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson @imascientist @alicebell Indeed - what would Michael Foot think of that? Great pity...
about 1 hour ago
2020science: Major Twitter failing: Reply policy kills engaging fully in open discussions - e.g. current exchanges with UK science minister @lorddrayson
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: RT @DraysonRacing: CCF is a good fit for Drayson Racing as it is about conservation of an endangered species and about speed.
about 1 hour ago
ShaneMcC: @lorddrayson is spending some quality time on twitter engaging with SciComm community - http://twitter.com/#search?q=lorddrayson
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @tim_harper Absolutely....and its never been a better time to be a British science entrepreneur....Your Country Needs You!
about 1 hour ago
42 minutes ago
joergheber: You all should check out the discussions between UK Science Minister @lorddrayson and several of us tweets. Exemplary public engagement!
42 minutes ago
michael_nielsen: RT @joergheber You all should check out the discussions between UK Science Minister @lorddrayson and several of us tweets...
40 minutes ago
skyponderer: Does anyone have the time or web prowess to correlate all the @lorddrayson tweets into a coherent narrative? Would be great to see!
39 minutes ago
garryleigh: Enjoy science? Must follow @lorddrayson engaging on Twitter - British perspective is quite interesting! quite.
36 minutes ago
imascientist: Well that was fun! Top points to @lorddrayson for openness and engagement. http://is.gd/UOha for those who missed it
32 minutes ago
tom_wells101: @lorddrayson Happy that science agenda is now stronger but how comfortable is pure science in BIS? Is this a shift towards applied research?
29 minutes ago
NatureMaterials: RT @joergheber: You all should check out the discussions between UK Science Minister @lorddrayson and several of us tweets.
27 minutes ago
jjsanderson: RT @imascientist: Well that was fun! Top points to @lorddrayson for openness and engagement. http://is.gd/UOha for those who missed it
27 minutes ago
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jjaron: RT: @imascientist: Well that was fun! Top points to @lorddrayson for openness and engagement. http://is.gd/UOha for those who missed it
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