skyponderer: Anyone else worried that science and defence are now inextricably politically linked? with @lorddrayson doing both jobs!?
1 day ago
@PD_Smith: RT @skyponderer: Anyone else worried that science and defence are now inextricably politically linked? with @lorddrayson doing both jobs!?
1 day ago
lorddrayson: @martinstillman Sure will. We need more direct engagement with / from politicians and twitter really helps.
1 day ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith What are you worried about?
1 day ago
GarethDEdwards: @lorddrayson @parsifal2 how's that for open govt? :) ( Lord D, congrats on new job and good luck at Le Mans)
1 day ago
Parsifal2: @lorddrayson So are my clients. They think you are brilliant ....
1 day ago
lorddrayson: @GarethDEdwards Thanks. I'm actually tweeting from the pit garage at Le Mans. Photos later....
1 day ago
Parsifal2: @lorddrayson For the record, you were/are the best Minister for Procurement in living memory ....
1 day ago
PD_Smith: .@lorddrayson You shd ask @skyponderer - but history shows we shd all be concerned abt links between sci & defence http://bit.ly/TejsO (expand)
about 24 hours ago
DrLucyRogers: Does history not also show good links between sci & defense, eg jet engine, radar etc? @PD_Smith: @lorddrayson @skyponderer @dr_david_w
about 24 hours ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson I agree with @PD_Smith, but I am also disappointed that science is undervalued enough not to need a full time minister...
about 24 hours ago
PD_Smith: RT @skyponderer: @lorddrayson I agree w/ @PD_Smith but am also disappointed that sci is undervalued enough not to need a full time minister
about 24 hours ago
ScienceTweets: RT @skyponderer: @lorddrayson I agree with @PD_Smith, but I am also disappointed that science is undervalued enough not to need a full t ...
about 23 hours ago
martinstillman: @lorddrayson tweeting SECURELY to obtain Citizens opinions & VOTES electronically; Mi-Voice provides this www.mi-voice.com
about 23 hours ago
PD_Smith: @DrLucyRogers Sci&Tech can be used for good or ill. But this decision must raise ethical concerns @lorddrayson @skyponderer @dr_david_w
about 23 hours ago
PD_Smith: ...Joseph Rotblat for one must be turning in his grave that sci & defence are now merged @DrLucyRogers @lorddrayson @skyponderer @dr_david_w
about 23 hours ago
DrLucyRogers: @lorddrayson Pls clarify your sci and MOD roles. Is it 2 separate jobs or 2 jobs merged into 1?
about 23 hours ago
PD_Smith: RT @DrLucyRogers : @lorddrayson Pls clarify your sci and MOD roles. Is it 2 separate jobs or 2 jobs merged into 1?
about 23 hours ago
RebeccaGW: Good to see @LordDrayson is still Science Minister, will innovation still sit with science in the new Dept.?
about 22 hours ago
tim_harper: RT @skyponderer: @lorddrayson ...but I am also disappointed that science is undervalued enough not to need a full time minister...
about 22 hours ago
DrLucyRogers: Lord Drayson's Sci and MOD roles are 2 separate jobs (via @lorddrayson)
about 21 hours ago
lorddrayson: @RebeccaGW Yes it will. Just like before in DIUS.
about 21 hours ago
lorddrayson: @tim_harper Its not undervalued. " It's not about the time thing. It's about the what you get done thing"
about 21 hours ago
tim_harper: @lorddrayson In business I'd agree, but it would be good to see govt recognizing the strategic value of science despite recent distractions
about 19 hours ago
lorddrayson: RT @DraysonRacing: Bonjour from Le Mans! Drayson Racing is now set and ready to go for its 24 Hour debut! #lemans
about 18 hours ago
matodd: @lorddrayson Best of British! Enjoy the parade des pilotes and the Hawaiian tropic girls! Wish I was there.
about 18 hours ago
adamsapples: @lorddrayson best of British to you and the team. I am not there this year, but will be cheering you on from home
about 18 hours ago
lorddrayson: RT @DraysonRacing: In Le Mans for the 24 Hour? Be sure to visit us at scrutineering: Tuesday 9:40 am local time! #lemans
about 18 hours ago
kwokjk: @lorddrayson Good luck to you and the whole Drayson team at Le Mans from my family here in California. =]
about 18 hours ago
AlexConnor: @lorddrayson Good to hear, is potentially an exciting time for science - 0.6% of public spending which drives the economy!
about 17 hours ago
skyponderer: Finding it annoying that @lorddrayson replies to everyone who has retweeted my posts, but not directly to me. Not important enough?
about 6 hours ago
PD_Smith: .@newscientist @NatureNews Are you going to discuss the pros & cons of @lorddrayson being joint Minister of Science & Defence Procurement?
about 6 hours ago
DrLucyRogers: See FT's blog on @lorddrayson's 2 jobs & @bisgovuk + comments from @michaelkenward http://bit.ly/M2qKB (expand) H/T @alicebell (via PD_Smith)
about 5 hours ago
joergheber: @rowanNS @skyponderer @PD_Smith seems the gov has run out of qualified personnel! Don't believe @lorddrayson that science won't be affected
about 4 hours ago
jjsanderson: Phew! My session clashes with @lorddrayson. Expected turnout for mine hence nil, so maybe I'll get away with it. #WCSJ
about 3 hours ago
lorddrayson: @skyponderer I'm sorry. No offence meant - should have RT'd the source. What would you like done to address your concerns?
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: @joergheber Please explain specifically what it is you are worried about. I'm listening... @rowanNS @skyponderer @PD_Smith
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: @tim_harper We absolutely recognise the strategic value of science. The global challenges we face demand it.
about 2 hours ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson 1. why does Science not deserve its own minister? 2. Are there not ethical issues re unifying sci + military under 1 minister?
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: RT @andyblackmore: #24 #LeMans #radiolemans Spotter Guide available at www.spotterguides.com Version 2 follows Tues Tech. Online Wed am
about 2 hours ago
tim_harper: @lorddrayson Just finished a conference call with the World Economic Form saying exactly the same thing - fortunately they agree too!
about 2 hours ago
tim_harper: RT @lorddrayson: @tim_harper We absolutely recognise the strategic value of science. The global challenges we face demand it. -good to hear
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: #lemans We have now signed on, weighed in and passed technical inspection. All set for first practice tomorrow at 6pm. We're in!
about 2 hours ago
paulbackhouse: @lorddrayson #lemans :: Shall miss the start but hope to be on Bleu Nord by 7pm. Looking forward to watching the practice session.
about 2 hours ago
silentypewriter: RT @PD_Smith: @lorddrayson 1. why does Science not deserve own minister? 2. Are there not issues re unifying sci+military under 1 minister?
about 2 hours ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith In my view the more the sci minister is connected to wider roles in govt the more influence science has to the whole agenda
about 2 hours ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson Justify why we need a shared role Don't we have enough talent to go round that we need to spread it thinly @ science's expense?
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @lorddrayson: In my view the more the sci minister is connected to wider roles in govt the more influence science has to the whole agenda
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith Science deserves a minister at the cabinet table. Thats key. Tick. Sci desrves a cabinet committee. Thats key too. Tick.
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson The logic of that is that you'll soon be taking on more portfolios? Sounds to me like a reduction in the import of sci.
about 1 hour ago
2020science: @skyponderer One up to @lorddrayson I think :-) Round two...
about 1 hour ago
2020science: RT @lorddrayson: @tim_harper We absolutely recognise the strategic value of science. The global challenges we face demand it.
about 1 hour ago
jwarnette: @lorddrayson What are you racing? I'm driving over on Thursday evening
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith But, many ministers have dual roles.. it really helps departments work together better. Silos in whitehall are not helpful.
about 1 hour ago
michaelkenward: @lorddrayson Did you see the AIM report on motorsport and "discontinuous innovation"? http://tinyurl.com/ludhb6 (expand)
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson And what about combining sci + defence procurement? Does it send out the right message in an age of nuclear proliferation?
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith Many science issues are cross-departmental. Take GMES as an example. MOD / DECC / BERR / DIUS all had a view on earth observation
about 1 hour ago
2020science: @lorddrayson Dedication to strategic value of science & technology encouraging. But also need to translate intentions into action.
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @lorddrayson: Science deserves a minister at the cabinet table. Thats key. Tick. Sci desrves a cabinet committee. Thats key too. Tick.
about 1 hour ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson Say a big defence matter comes up? Carries more political weight than science, science will suffer. Defence wouldn't vice versa
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @lorddrayson: But, many ministers have dual roles.. it really helps departments work together better. Silos in whitehall are not helpful.
about 1 hour ago
silentypewriter: Twitter debate between Science minister @lorddrayson and #ukscitweetup bods. Going down now!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith Re ethical issues. You have a point. I have to be absolutely clear on the separation between the 2 roles. Civil service r key.
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith However, many science breakthroughs originated in defence research: ultrasound, radar to mention 2
about 1 hour ago
woodtom: thoroughly impressed by @DraysonRacing & @lorddrayson coverage of #lemans so far. Looking forward to updates during race. Good luck chaps!
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @lorddrayson worried abt role of science and thinking behind reorg. Why talk of ring fence? Are these threats to budget? Sounds defensive?
about 1 hour ago
imascientist: @lorddrayson @PD_Smith But is there a risk sci gets 'pulled' in a military direction? Potential crossovers w othr depts instead, e.g. health
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson I'm v glad to hear you accept there has to be separation. But I still say it sends out a mixed message to the rest of the world
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: RT @tim_harper: @lorddrayson conference call with the World Economic Form saying exactly the same thing - fortunately they agree too!
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: .@lorddrayson That's undeniable. But science should, and can be, about so much more than military hardware.
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @skyponderer Its not at science's expense- v. imp to be integrated into heart of govt- gives mores influence & impact 2 sci agenda
about 1 hour ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson Does science not have enough value on its own to be at heart of govt, why does it have to piggy-back in on defence's shoulders?
about 1 hour ago
alicebell: @lorddrayson. Er, isn't that the point? People aren't sure that science and defence are the departments they want working together
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @PD_Smith I agree. Defence is but a small part of the whole. "Science so what; So everything"....will continue from BIS... @sciencesowhat
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson Appreciate your attempt to justify your position(s) on Twitter though... Altho still not convinced it's a good idea.
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @lorddrayson military research brought lots of benefits, but am worried about blue sky basic research (in terms of funding, not intentions)
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @alicebell: @lorddrayson. Er, isn't that the point? People aren't sure that sci & defence are the departments they want working together
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @lorddrayson: I agree. Defence is but a small part of the whole. "Science so what; So everything"...will continue from BIS @sciencesowhat
about 1 hour ago
dr_david_w: @lorddrayson @PD_Smith @skyponderer Gordon Brown wanted a debate on the role of science in service of humanity. His actions speak volumes.
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @tim_harper @lorddrayson that's exactly my concern- science seems a fragile commodity in the scheme of gov. Shouldn't be on the defensive!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @joergheber "Only the paranoid survive" as Mr Grove once said..Best to be clear dont u think. The ring fence is safe and sound. Period.
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @imascientist the spinoffs in health are key - which is why I head the Office for Life Sciences too.
about 1 hour ago
imascientist: @lorddrayson But as @alicebell suggests, it seems to send an odd message - as if defence apps are the *main point* of science.
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: Intrigued to hear that @lorddrayson heads the Office for Life Sciences & Defence Procurement. That seems almost oxymoronic...
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @lorddrayson yet Andy Grove's quote works both ways as we can see :) Deeds speak louder than words so look forward to the former. Good luck!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: I really believe science agenda is stronger now in govt than ever. Its up to me to prove it though in the future. @tim_harper @joergheber
about 1 hour ago
imascientist: @lorddrayson I don't want to sound like we're all ganging up on you. Kudos for discussing it!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @joergheber Pure research is safe.. read my speech at FST
about 1 hour ago
alicebell: RT @PD_Smith Intrigued to hear that @lorddrayson heads the Office for Life Sciences & Defence Procurement. That seems almost oxymoronic...
about 1 hour ago
2020science: @lorddrayson Internal multiple roles for ministers seems pragmatic. But it does lead to mixed/confusing messages to those outside govt.
about 1 hour ago
drneilravenhill: Follow @lorddrayson for discussions on Science in Govt (UK). Congrats to Lord Drayson for being open (and being in Le Man)
about 1 hour ago
skyponderer: @lorddrayson Hats off for the chance for dialogue. Very impressed we can all chat to the Minister for Science about such key issues
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @physicus 3G iPhone pleeeease.... :-) I may quote Andy Grove but Ive used Apples since 1982.... @2020science
about 1 hour ago
imascientist: @lorddrayson Maybe I'm an old hippy, but I try to engage kids in science, hoping they'll cure cancer or save planet. Weapons, not so much...
about 1 hour ago
2020science: @tim_harper Kudos to @lorddrayson engaging on Twitter - complex issues, but deftly handled (if not quite resolved...)
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: RT @skyponderer: @lorddrayson Hats off for the chance for dialogue. V impressed we can all chat to the Minister for Sci ab such key issues
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @imascientist @alicebell Not the main point. Just one of many, many , applications of sci. MoD R&D budget is one of the largest tho...
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @joergheber Fair enough. Thanks.
about 1 hour ago
tim_harper: @lorddrayson That's good to hear and good luck! Our future prosperity will be built on science + entrepreneurs , just as it always has been!
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @2020science yes I can understand that - which is why its so important for me to be open and accessible. Thank u twitter. ...
about 1 hour ago
joergheber: @lorddrayson thank you for listening on this channel!
about 1 hour ago
bristolwestpaul: RT @lorddrayson: I really believe science agenda is stronger now in govt than ever. Its up to me to prove it though in the future.
about 1 hour ago
PD_Smith: @lorddrayson @imascientist @alicebell Indeed - what would Michael Foot think of that? Great pity...
about 1 hour ago
2020science: Major Twitter failing: Reply policy kills engaging fully in open discussions - e.g. current exchanges with UK science minister @lorddrayson
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: RT @DraysonRacing: CCF is a good fit for Drayson Racing as it is about conservation of an endangered species and about speed.
about 1 hour ago
ShaneMcC: @lorddrayson is spending some quality time on twitter engaging with SciComm community - http://twitter.com/#search?q=lorddrayson
about 1 hour ago
lorddrayson: @tim_harper Absolutely....and its never been a better time to be a British science entrepreneur....Your Country Needs You!
about 1 hour ago
timeshighered: @lorddrayson - Your new role seems to be getting a few queries...would you like to write an opinion article for us defending your new brief?
42 minutes ago
joergheber: You all should check out the discussions between UK Science Minister @lorddrayson and several of us tweets. Exemplary public engagement!
42 minutes ago
michael_nielsen: RT @joergheber You all should check out the discussions between UK Science Minister @lorddrayson and several of us tweets...
40 minutes ago
skyponderer: Does anyone have the time or web prowess to correlate all the @lorddrayson tweets into a coherent narrative? Would be great to see!
39 minutes ago
garryleigh: Enjoy science? Must follow @lorddrayson engaging on Twitter - British perspective is quite interesting! quite.
36 minutes ago
imascientist: Well that was fun! Top points to @lorddrayson for openness and engagement. http://is.gd/UOha (expand) for those who missed it
32 minutes ago
lorddrayson: @timeshighered Delighted... thanks for the offer. Lets do it.
31 minutes ago
tom_wells101: @lorddrayson Happy that science agenda is now stronger but how comfortable is pure science in BIS? Is this a shift towards applied research?
29 minutes ago
NatureMaterials: RT @joergheber: You all should check out the discussions between UK Science Minister @lorddrayson and several of us tweets.
27 minutes ago
jjsanderson: RT @imascientist: Well that was fun! Top points to @lorddrayson for openness and engagement. http://is.gd/UOha (expand) for those who missed it
27 minutes ago
timeshighered: @lorddrayson - Fantastic, our people will be in touch with your people, and good luck with Le Mans!
22 minutes ago
jjaron: RT: @imascientist: Well that was fun! Top points to @lorddrayson for openness and engagement. http://is.gd/UOha (expand) for those who missed it
15 minutes ago